18:41:23 From Laurie McCann : late breaking news: the Commissioner known to be a conservationist has been removed by the Governor 18:41:33 From Laurie McCann : Game Commissioner that is 18:43:25 From Laurie McCann : Jeremy Vesbach 18:43:35 From Jen Hull : New Mexico Paddlers Coalition doesn’t show up on facebook group or google searches… 18:44:32 From Jamie (he/him) : are we gonna do breakout rooms for particular permits people are applyign for? 18:44:47 From Laurie McCann : That’s not good! I will check it out after tonight’s presentation 18:45:07 From Adobe White Water Club Host : No, we will not be doing breakout rooms 18:45:26 From Jamie (he/him) : so is there any interactive component to tonight? 18:45:56 From Adobe White Water Club Host : yes. we will ask Travis how he would like to run the presentation 18:52:48 From Adam : it was a unanimous board decision to support the writ of mandamus :) 18:53:44 From Jamie (he/him) : i was hoping this could be an opportunity to organize “i’m going on ____ trip, join me to talk about my permit/plans for this application.” kinda deal… is that possible? 18:54:49 From Adam : we could suggest trips and dates in chat while Travis presents 18:55:31 From Adam : For anyone new to the area this is the premier presentation for AWC 18:56:10 From Jamie (he/him) : good idea & use of time, thanks adam. I’m gonna apply for westwater i think, not entirely sure of dates - also, animas trips for sure in april!! weekends in durango! 18:57:44 From Adam : I am putting in for launch July 1-5 for everything, I'm taking the 5-8 off, will go to Ark BV if no permit 18:58:24 From Adobe White Water Club Host : Do we have a volunteer to create a spreadsheet? 18:58:32 From Adam : Awesome - my favorite is teh Gila 18:58:41 From Adam : There's amiddle box as well - 18:59:06 From Adam : Middle box is the funnest class III in the state, shuttle is insane 18:59:06 From Ira Bolnick : Will you be posting the Powerpoint? 18:59:31 From Travis B : goo.gl/fVsHZL 19:00:55 From Scott Carpenter - Adobe Whitewater Club : I can add a few comment for Cataract. 19:00:57 From Adam : yes 19:05:12 From Adam : they claim there will be water - been doin git for years, low credibility 19:07:35 From Adam : El Vado under construction lake super low 19:10:31 From Adam : preseason is cold and windy 19:12:19 From Adobe White Water Club Host : what do you mean by suicide to shuttle 19:12:44 From carpenter hancock family : Does the boat need to be inflated for ID inspection? 19:13:39 From carpenter hancock family : Thanks! 19:14:00 From Adam : Mary and I took our IK's to Glacier this summer, we had them inspected at the border of Nevada/Idaho, Idaho/Montana, Montana Idaho, Idaho/Wyoming to keep them legal - it was easy and worth it 19:15:06 From Adam : get a permit for July 1 and call me 19:15:10 From Jamie (he/him) : looking forward to doing that here! definitely a thing a paddle club is good for - yay for meeting new boating friends and making plans together 19:16:55 From Andy Vanis : what is cancellation zoo? re: selway slide 19:22:18 From Andy Vanis : how does it work? 19:23:21 From Adam : my typical strategy, being from Abq is to count on some local runoff (Mama Chama, Animas, Rio Grande Box/racecourse) in the spring and then look to get a permit up North for midsummer 19:23:24 From Scott Carpenter - Adobe Whitewater Club : early dates for Middle fork may have snow packed road. 19:24:18 From Cody Brown : Anyone in the northern states? 19:24:48 From Scott Carpenter - Adobe Whitewater Club : great Day run above Corn Creek putin for Main Salmon to extend your trip. 19:24:49 From Jennifer Elle : I’m from Idaho, will probably put in on all four rivers this year, but don’t have dates yet 19:26:11 From Laurie McCann : Not crazy to do lower Salmon into the Snake - beautiful, mellow, great beaches! 19:30:15 From Jamie (he/him) : i’ve gotta go but thanks for putting on this presentation, travis! hope to boat with some o y’all this year - pray for snow & rain! and HMU if you’re planning some trips!! 19:31:46 From Adam : Did July 1 last year, was hot, no mosquitoes, great trip - got too hot, dam release dropped and it was low water 19:32:30 From Adam : low crowd - the low flow caused other trips to cancel and we were the only launch 19:35:47 From Adam : Permit?? 19:35:54 From Adam : What section? 19:35:58 From Adam : OK 19:36:22 From Adam : Need high snowpack, low probablity imo 19:37:03 From Adam : I'e done a hundred + miles of teh Dolores = Awesome 19:37:21 From Adam : Do not Miss a Release from McPhee 19:43:41 From Adam : Great Job Travis, thanks! 19:43:47 From Mary McArthur : Awesome, Travis! 19:44:02 From carpenter hancock family : Great information and sharing!!! 19:44:26 From Rayo McCollough : Can you post the link to this presentation? 19:44:33 From Andy Vanis : what would you say to someone that has never applied?...….what to do when, things to keep in mind, things to expect in the permit process, etc 19:44:35 From Elaine Regan : Wonderful info - thanks a bunch 19:44:43 From Adobe White Water Club Host : we will post on adobewhitewater.org 19:44:56 From Ira Bolnick : Great job, Travis! 19:45:00 From Becky Pierce : We have a White Rim Trail bike ride permit for May 18-24. We have room for another 3-4 people especially if they have a 4x4 hi truck 19:45:31 From Antonia Treverton : Thank you Travis. Hope to be out there summer! 19:46:14 From Laurie McCann : Are there maps for lower Animas? 19:46:23 From Adobe White Water Club Host : This was an excellent presentation. Thanks! 19:47:56 From Adobe White Water Club Host : The link to the dynamic file will be posted on the awc website 19:48:27 From Adobe White Water Club Host : We have a link to it on our website! 19:48:41 From carpenter hancock family : Wonderful info , if I get a permit for a “new” River, I’ll ask for a mentor! Good luck to all! 19:49:45 From kateudall : Thanks everyone. Happy tp have found the club! 19:50:57 From Ira Bolnick : Good luck to all. If I score a permit or permits, I'll definitely post on AWC (besides my usual suspects). Hope you all do the same. 19:50:58 From Adobe White Water Club Host : Kent Ford's Animas guide https://cdn.riversports.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/animas-river-paddle-trail-guidebook-v.3.1.2021.pdf 19:53:52 From Adobe White Water Club Host : Link to past presentations https://www.adobewhitewater.org/video-book-library 19:55:02 From Jennifer Elle : Cody, you can put in preseason but it is likely to be cold (not uncommon for snow on the ground) 19:55:13 From Jennifer Elle : And the water can be dangerously high 19:55:28 From Cody Brown : Thanks Jennifer! 19:55:30 From Jennifer Elle : Locals do it all the time, might be hard to plan a travel trip around 19:55:53 From Laurie McCann : Great presentation, Q & A. Thanks all! 19:55:58 From sonyaburke : Hey everyone! I have many years of experience as a river guide on the Arkansas. I think my swift water rescue cert is expired but I have one as well as years of CPR and first aid! I don’t have my own boat yet but can fairly easily get my hands on one. I’d love to put in for some permits this year! Here’s my email: weatheredthreads@gmail.com 19:57:13 From Adam : recreation.gov for all the permits now 19:59:27 From Mary McArthur : can't run the Grand twice in a year 19:59:31 From Adam : can't go twice - I'm pretty sure that's true, unless it's commercial 20:02:21 From Mary McArthur : awc-members@mailman.swcp.com 20:02:24 From Adobe White Water Club Host : awc-chat@mailman.swcp.com 20:02:25 From Adam : or KayajerAndy are you a rafter r 20:02:40 From Mary McArthur : yes, the Chat's better 20:02:50 From Adam : or kayaker? 20:03:20 From Mary McArthur : Thank you, Donna and Scott! 20:04:20 From Andy Vanis : Adam - both raft and hardshell 20:05:21 From Adam : for Dolores I need to get Bedrock down to CO - and Dam to lone dove 20:06:28 From Adam : andy - racecourse is running all the time - I can't this wekend but Rio Grande near Pilar 20:07:04 From Mary McArthur : Cody, what are you doing these days? 20:07:04 From Adam : the kayak meetup group still around? 20:07:29 From Cody Brown : Mary I am up here in Montana! 20:07:43 From Antonia Treverton : Goodnight everyone, nice to see you all. 20:08:24 From Adobe White Water Club Host : Yes, the kayak meetup is still around. https://www.meetup.com/Albuquerque-Santa-Fe-kayak-meetup/ 20:08:36 From Adam : Welcome - get well soon!! 20:13:44 From Andy Vanis : thanks all...bye for now. 20:14:14 From Adam : Mary and I are out of town next weekend - hate to miss the cleanup 20:14:39 From Mary McArthur : Goodnight all! Mary and Dave